I'm in pain myself right now so I guess I'd feel some sympathy for him if he had to go through any.... he has enough problems. I can put up with a bit of bleeding and *****iness, maybe he'll have to decide whether he wants to put up with that part of it. Funny, my sex drive will be there and then instantly gone, i think the hormones are messing with me. I mean, maybe he'll meet the perfect person, come into some money and decide he does want more kids in his future. I'd hate to make him make a permanent decision and we may not work out. thanks though valentinavvv, kind of funny considering most men think having a charlie horse cramp is as bad as giving birth, well, my ex swore it was worse, lol.