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Old Feb 13, 2016, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by yagr View Post
Let me start off by saying that while I only know you from your posts here, I like you. I really do. I'm going to say some things below that you might not want to hear - not because I think you are wrong; I don't think that. But because I have found that when I change the way I think about things I can find a way to be happier, and I very much wish you to be happier.


I am not going to pretend that I know the reason he says this, but there is an argument to be made defending his position. You want to fit in and be liked. You want friends. Typically, people give up a little bit of themselves to fit in better. That is not to say that you do not have the right to be yourself - you absolutely do, but if you do not compromise some to fit in - you won't.

I'm not suggesting you compromise on your morals or values...but perhaps on some of your discomforts or preferences. For me, I'm not interested in doing that - but then, I don't want friends and I don't want to fit in or be liked. I have one friend - my wife, and I'm just fine with that. If your not, then maybe you'll find more success if you bend in safe ways.


Yes, you have every right not to do anything that makes you uncomfortable. But it'll cost you. Your choice. Let's say I have an aversion to shaking hands. I'm not going to get far in a business career or as a politician. If my heart is set on a business career or as a politician, then I'm going to have to suck it up, put on my happy face and shake their hands. I'm also free to choose a different line of work that doesn't require (socially) shaking hands.

I can have anything I want - but I can't have everything I want. I have to make a choice. I absolutely hate being around people - loath it. When I was younger I had an opportunity to take a position in which I was paid over $100/hour - but I had to be social. There was another position open to me that didn't require me to be social - it paid minimum wage. I chose the money and did that work for twenty-four years. Every day after work I would go sit in a closet for two hours and detox from the contact. But it was my choice.


Yep, it's true - people don't like 'different'. It's a fact of life. Again, we have a choice - play by societal rules or play alone.


Well, he's right isn't he? That's exactly what happened - people talked about you behind your back, shunned you and thought badly about you. He's not wrong. And you're not wrong either - they are silly and judgmental and petty. But that's most people as you've figured out.


I don't think he's exaggerating. In a group we give up part of our identity to fit in with the group identity. When people refuse to compromise their identity in small ways for the group, the group tends to ostracize them. I'm not saying it's right - but it is what happens.


You are both 100% right. He is right that if you want to fit in, you'll have to suck it up; and you are right that you under absolutely no obligation to do anything that makes you uncomfortable.


When in Rome, I do as the Romans do - and make a point of not going to Rome.


You have a right to how you feel. Your boundaries should be respected. But they have a right to how they feel too - and it seems they feel you are too high maintenance to deal with.
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I like you too. Thanks for your great response! Sorry for my slow one! I've been more depressed and tired than usual. It doesn't hurt that I feel that some of my friends are ignorning me or even having second thoughts about being friends it seems like.

Anyways, I digress.....you're right about what you said. Especially the part to where most people don't seem to like people who are different from them. That sucks that you had to suck it up in a job that you hated for so long! The money must have been really great for you to endure hiding out in the closet for two hours just to detox, lol.

As for being high maitenance, I'm not. I just want people to respect my boundaries and not try to force me to be someone and something I'm not just to please them. Why should I try to change for people who want me to change just so THEY could feel comfortable around me? If they can't accept my real self and respect some of my differences, then there is no reason for me to even want to try to suck it up for such selfish and judgemental idiots who can't or won't even try to make some adjustments for me to make me more comfortable around them.

For example, my husbands friends could've tried to make me feel more comfortable and have sucked things up for me in the past by speaking English to me. By not doing so, they showed an obvious lack of concern for my feelings.

So other people are usually the real divas IMHO as THEY expect ME to always sucks it up for THEM, and then reject me when I don't play by their rules. It seems like it's to hard for them to make any exceptions. They're to selfish to care about other peoples feelings, so to hell with people like them I say.

If I don't want other people to kiss me on the cheek or hug me too, and I make it obvious by just extending my hand for a handshake, or I keep my distance from the when they do that, then that's their issue, not mine. When people from a different culture come here, they should not expect Americans to act like them. Does that make any sense? I hear what you're saying though.
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