> Science has repeatedly shown that porn reduces sex crimes, not increase them.

I'd need to see examples of studies because I'm pretty darned sure that there is still a lot of controversy. The Australian government was trying to outlaw pornography in Aboriginal populations, for example, because they thought the science showed that that would DECREASE rates of childhood sexual abuse.

> I don't think people have a natural inclination to rape. Where is your information on this?

War. What is the perk of successfully invading a new country? Leaving a new generation is what. There is a lot that has been done on rape of women by the military in India. Scholars who had military fathers and native mothers. Seems to be on something of a continuum with what some of the greater apes have been observed to do. When new males overthrow old males they are observed to punch the stomachs of the pregnant females (to induce abortion) and to kill the children of the old males before raping the females (in the sense that they seem frightened and unwilling). Rates of incest (rape surely) aren't increasing... What is increasing is public perception that this IS prevalent and should be stopped.

> If rape could be reduced by 10% by outlawing porn, why should those who don't rape not be able to view it?

Because... (In this example) rape would be reduced by 10%.
Then there are all the other arguments I've offered against porn where there would be a reduction in harm to working girls, a reduction in anti-social attitudes towards women etc etc etc. You seem focused in on rape as the only harm. I think there are a great deal of other harms too...

> You seem to be under the impression that outlawing things keeps people from them. That's naive. It just isn't so. In fact, making things taboo causes people to desire them more.

If people have a problem with authority and they perceive authorities to be telling them what to do for no reason other than 'because they can' then yeah, those people tend to rebel.

On the other hand, when the authorities tell you 'please don't go around murdering other people' then does that make you want to murder people just because you have been told not to???

A great deal seems to rest on the REASONS WHY certain things are outlawed.

If rape is such a terrible, terrible crime that leaves horrible lasting impact on its victims... Then why on earth wouldn't people forgo a little 'getting ones rocks off' IF it were found that outlawing pornography could reduce rape by 10%

Of course one might deny that outlawing porn would have such an impact on the prevalence of rape. I think that given what we know about classical conditioning of sexual response it would be more surprising if viewing pornography had nothing to do with rape, however.

It is hard to compare cross country statistics but...
There is lower gun crime in countries that are harsher on gun ownership (england, australia, new zealand compared to the USA).
Some of the criticisms of reading off 'tightening up on gun laws would result in a decrease in gun crime' include the rather different situation that the US finds itself in...

Seems that people simply cite the findings that support their view and deny / pass over the findings that support the opposite view, however.

Kinda pointless to discuss it given that that is the case...