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Originally Posted by Shaly78
I like to invalidate a few things here:
Creativity and Intelligence in my mind is no merit because no one has ever told me about how creativity and intelligence plays a role in dissociation.
Add to determining factor the number of abusers
Forced into silence, family threatened if told
I'm not even sure about 'safe' family because if they have no knowledge about the questions to ask or what you look for then they are just family more people to create apparent normal parts/emotional parts from possibly
I knew a person that had abuse from a grandparent for seven years no dissociative identity disorder....
I read also online about 2 sisters that when through years of cult abuse no dissociative identity disorder
What happened in those two examples.
I just didn't like what you said about weak and sensitivity
No it is a coping mechanism that is why most of us shouldn't be in therapy unless something sever is happening to mess up your safety! If you black out across town and are found on a side walk, admitted to psych ward then get diagnosed then no choice to be outed. Most of us don't cope that bad where our parts are making us very unsafe...Some of us are well protected high functioning with well paying jobs and career that can keep us incognito ....I think that is majority of what is story material that are in books and movies.
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First of all, I didnt write this, hense "Referencing Bill Tollefson"; take that up with him.
Second I was in a cult from ages 6 to 18 headed by my mom & step dad, I made up alters but had no memory loss and the alters left when i left the cult; I also had a made up world that I would completelty dissociate to (I think one would need to be a little creative to do that) but I dont have DID so this ISNT explaining just DID; if you read the entire thing, dissocitation varies from simple day dreaming to DID.
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No it is a coping mechanism that is why most of us shouldn't be in therapy unless something sever is happening to mess up your safety! If you black out across town and are found on a side walk, admitted to psych ward then get diagnosed then no choice to be outed. Most of us don't cope that bad where our parts are making us very unsafe...Some of us are well protected high functioning with well paying jobs and career that can keep us incognito ....I think that is majority of what is story material that are in books and movies.
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I take complete offense to this. So what Im understanding, and I am dyslexic, is you are saying that if someone dissociates, they cant function in society and have a high paying job? And furthermore state that if someone feels the need for a little bit of help, like marriage counseling, they shouldnt go because there wasnt severe abuse? Are you seriously saying that?
Apparently all you took from that was the "blacking" out part; read above that. Daydreaming that we all do is disocissation. Making up a fake world to go to when they want to escape bad feelings (no loss of time, no loss of memory, and dont 'black out' and end up across town) is dissociation.
By the way, I dissociate ALL OF THE TIME, I would say on average 20 times a day and I still function in society, have a high paying job and have never been admitted to the psych ward.
Please read everything posted and if you take offense to the wording, take it up with Bill Tollefson; he's all over the internet.