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Old Feb 21, 2016, 12:53 AM
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It is never true that the T is like a parent to the client when both T and client are adults. If either the T or client believes that that is true, it is that belief that creates the feeling of harm, not the conditions of therapy itself.
If by "like" you mean equivalent to, i agree. But there are obvious close parallels and harm done in therapy often echoes early attachment relationships. Sure belief has a lot to do with it, but so do unconscious drives, impulses, longings, and the very structure of therapy. And also if the belief is prevalent and that belief is causing harm, it is still a basic flaw in the system as it stands.

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The T has minimal actual involvement in the client's daily life.
Maybe not in terms of physical presence, but in terms of psychological presence seems it is not uncommon for the T to be a dominant figure in the lives of no small number of clients.

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When a T terminates a client, objectively speaking, no material harm is done. No resources are taken from the client.
What does material harm or resources have to do with therapy on any level? Clearly the harm is psychological and emotional. Termination put me into a dangerous spiral including suicidal states. And this is directly related to early life attachments and basic survival needs, material or not.

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If we say that a T cannot terminate a client, that implies that the T owes more to their client than the actual terms of therapy, basically, indefinite availability and unconditional willingness to provide that client services.
Who said anything about T can never terminate, or indefinite availability, etc? Those are unreasonable extremes. I am just looking for basic accountability. Some aspects of therapy cannot be easily codified or measured, but are still critically important.

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Most therapy clients do not leave therapy perceiving that they have been harmed by the process.
Source?

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It would be impossible to create a kind of therapy in which a T never abandoned a client.
Of course. The only questions of importance are how often is it happening and what are the long term outcomes for clients who go through it. Just to say that it's impossible to avoid settles nothing.