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Second, what about counseling/therapy?
That just sounds like such a major hurdle to overcome that a professional's guidance would be valuable.

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Yes....... I agree and while I have spent 8 long and emotionally hard years in counseling, hubby only spent three months for him self and may be 6 months total (off & on) for me and him.

He would probably go back to counseling if I started it for myself and then he came in on it - but from history its self I do not think this will work unless hubby gets help for his own issues first...... for we have been there done that kind of thing already.

All HOPE..... really seems to be lost here.