Oh yeah . I've been there and it took me a long time to figure out just how that affected me primarily because my father never took any responsibility for influencing me one way or the other . And he could get me so angry / then have me believe he had nothing to do with that . I became familiar with just how he would intentionally set me up and how he really wanted to fight ..... But yeah , I never felt any emotional support from him . His old style notion of fatherhood was material . I supplied room and board .....that's all .