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Old Feb 27, 2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Innerzone View Post
Not a bipolar trait.
Something like grandiosity might make it easier, but it's not a trait of BP unto itself.

Consider perception and intent. Something may not be true, but not be a lie. Like...in a strong hypomania, I threw my hands to the sky and shouted, "I'm a f****** genius!!!!!!!!!" Is this a lie? No. I was just crazy full of myself. Grandiosity. (Lol, it involved a marker, aluminum foil, and glue gun --oh how it would have wowed 'em! )

Or situations of saying I'll do things. And they don't happen. Not lies. I really DO mean to do them. But I'm not having a realistic perception.

But say someone IS trying to deceive. The grandiosity and feeling of invincibility could certainly embolden them to cross the line, but it doesn't cause them to lie. Deceiving is a choice.

Lying makes me super anxious (a mix of personal code, paranoia and being terrible at it anyway). The only thing I'm good at lying about is saying things are ok when they totally aren't.
In defense of my younger self, I just want to intercede. Cutting oneself is not a symptom of bd. In fact, it is a red flag for bpd. However, I think it is fair to blame bp for some folks who cut as it should seem there is no associated personality disorder.

In fact, spending, wreck less driving, sleeping around are not symptoms of bipolar, they simply fall under "poor judgement," just as I believe lying can fit under both grandiosity and poor judgement. When I was younger and cycling rapidly, I would lie through my teeth for attention (when I was high and inconsiderate) and then crash and through tears confess the truth. In fact, my pdoc told my mom he wouldn't believe anything I said at that point as I was so out of my mind.
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