Mandyfins if someone is posing for a nude painting they would have to assume that other people will see it. Unless they did it when they were young and now later in life they are embarassed, i fail to see how that is humiliating. No one forced them to pose. Now if someone used just your face and a make believe body then i could see that being humiliating.

Seeker, i would have to disagree with Berger about a female nude being purely for the gratification and objectification of the male. While undoubtedly some men or even most men might find gratification in a female nude, i have found in life that nothing is purely this or purely that. People are very complex creatures and our actions or thoughts are never purely anything.

Of course everyone has their own idea of what pornography is but when one or a few impose on the rest of society their view of what pornography is, that i have a problem with it. I believe like here with posts, if you dont like the subject dont read it, or in this case view it.