Maven,
Please take further requests regarding forums to DocJohn in PM from this point.
As for now, this forum is for the discussion of spiritual issues.
This forum is *specifically* not for debate or calling others out in regards to their beliefs, or criticizing them. It's unsupportive. If you would like to discuss your own beliefs without being critical of another's, that's fine.
Further posts that can be viewed as unsupportive to any will be removed.
Thanks,
KD
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