I think the very first post answers the question about how to define a creep...though it is different for everyone and comes down to our own interpretation...I'm not sure I like the word...but it fits probably fits most men that would fit what is being described in this thread...
Women can be the same in a lot of ways...I think I've been fairly consistent in adding the flip side demonstrating how comments or articles are more universal and apply to both men and women...as Rhapsody points out...
Ok...so this response is going to end up a little long...I'm going to condense it down as much as possible...
Yes we believe people can change...but the amount of change protrayed in movies is fairly rare in my opinion...women and men alike tend to believe this...most movies though show the man as the "creep" which I personally hate...but that is the reality...
For whatever reason, there are a surprising number of women (and Men) who are attracted to guys (gals) who can’t commit, who can’t relate, who can’t get along with anyone, who can’t tell the truth…
It’s not that women (Men) really want jerks, exactly. I think it’s a matter of mistaking emotional clutter for emotional complexity. Here’s an analogy: Imagine a messy apartment. You walk in, you survey your surroundings, and there’s an incredible quantity of stuff lying around. Books in tall stacks, Chinese food containers in the corners, DVDs in and out of boxes scattered around the TV… the place is in chaos. And while you wouldn’t really want to live there...chopping out some here...my former wife's apartment was a disaster...our home was a disaster in spite of my cleaning...and yes after divorce her place is a disaster.
I think that for a lot of women (men), guys(Gals) in turmoil seem strangely fascinating, as if they are, by definition, more interesting than everyone else. There’s more of that clutter, so there’s more going on, and there’s more to sink your teeth into, and there’s maybe even more emotional depth to such a person....I think men see this as a damsel in distress who needs our help...thinking we can solve all the problems...which we realize we can't
Let me tell you something about the guys I know who are emotionally mature. The ranks of the healthy and rational include plenty of guys who have been in rehab, or been divorced, or seen their parents’ marriages end horribly, or had their own dreams thwarted in some ugly way—all the things that creeps are fond of waving around as explanations for why they lie or cheat on you or generally continue to be creeps. //// yea just insert gals here...no further explanation...
According to Linda, many intelligent women prefer men with emotional complexities, even if it means that he can be verbally abusive, inaccessible, and generally loonier than Courtney Love on a bender. //// My original comment "That's actually very sad"...reason I said that is that I was in a verbally abusive marraige and felt physical threatened...even today I don't like her invading my space...it happens more than what is documented
Now, I can’t speak for all men, but while I may have tolerated similar behavior, I can’t say I’ve ever preferred it. Any time I found myself dating a woman who was an emotional roller-coaster, the only reasons I stuck with her were because a) I was lonely and her presence in my life helped to fill a void or b) I was getting the best sex of my life. Lame, but true. //// Again my original comment "For me it was the children...but guessing this person isn't married and have children...". I think "a" applies to women, but not "b" usually...
Put another way: Could you ever picture a man saying out loud, “There’s something that’s just so mysterious about her. Sometimes I look in her eyes and I feel like she totally understands me, and other times, I have no idea what she’s thinking. She runs really hot and cold but I can’t get enough of her. I think I’m going to stick around until I can crack her shell. One day she’ll learn to be more emotionally available and loving.” Tolerance for female ambivalence is not a stereotypically male attribute. //// my Original comment "hoping female or males would stop thinking this way..."
But it’s not simply the rejection of the nice guy that’s keeping so many women single. It’s the acceptance of the screwed-up guy. Because screwed-up guys draw screwed-up women into a whole Misery Loves Company episode of Love Connection—where both parties are brought together not by the audience but by their insecurities and inadequacies. //// Original comment "a percentage probably happen this way..." Don't have anything to add as it is already balanced...
Women who have their act together simply don’t have the patience. Admittedly, there are a few people who probably enjoy the histrionics and the moods and the make-up sex that come with dating drama kings and queens. But I’d bet that most are just willing to tolerate the drama, because, thus far, that drama comes attached to the “best” person they could find. Essentially, they’re saying, “Yeah, he’s inconsistent, selfish, and distant, but he’s all mine.” Just realize that every second you’re spending with the wrong guy is a second that you’re not out looking for the right one — the guy who gives, the guy who listens, the guy who learns. //// In many ways I thought this way during my marriage...
So ... in my opinion a more balanced look at things...and some ways how one might spot a "Jerk" though I prefer these words...rude, immature, or contemptible person...
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