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Old Apr 11, 2016, 12:24 PM
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I think with pharma medicine, a little healthy skepticism is not enough. The so called "side effects" are actually just part of the totality of the drug's effect (as one doc pointed out) and the fact that these adverse effects can manifest all over the body (some of them very serious) seems to suggest a systemic poison. Long term psych drug use seems to correlate quite strongly with declining mental and physical health.

In my experience most docs never get to other things not working. Drugs come first and last. Physicians and Psychiatrists are more properly called Clinical Pharmacologists and what they know is drugs drugs drugs. This is medicine?

I was diagnosed a few years ago with a condition (Pyroluria) that can lead to severe Zinc and B6 deficiency. Deficiency of Zinc has been linked to none other than Schizophrenia. Not to mention Depression, Bipolar, and more. I have been mocked on PC for suggesting that vitamins or minerals might be important. Such is the delusion and arrogance and tunnel vision of modern medicine that basic nutrition is often skipped in favor of magic pills that merely numb symptoms.

Not knocking drugs in emergencies and crises, but beyond that I dunno.
Last summer I was diagnosed with B12 deficiency, and I am absolutely convinced that this contributed significantly to the severe episode of depression I was experiencing at the time. I even dissociated a bunch of times, because there are lapses in memory. Once I got the B12 injections, I got much better.

However, the B12 deficiency was caused by the fact that I don't eat much, because I have a very negative relationship to food, which gets even worse when I have a depressive episode as one might expect. So really, the deficiency only made the depression worse, it wasn't the actual cause of it initially.

And I am not under the impression that pills are magical. For me, the medications flattened me out, because that's what they do. When the symptoms are removed, there isn't actually going to be happiness underneath it all, and if it isn't a huge f***ing relief at first for the person to feel numb then I don't think that person should have been put on the medication in the first place (and yes, that does happen way too often). What happened to me as a result of taking the medication was that I stopped wishing I were dead all the time, and as a result of THAT I was able to make use of therapy because I became somewhat rational. I have medication to thank for that.

I think we can all agree that it is less than ideal to take medication because it is less than ideal to have to be on medication in order to stay alive, but at this point in time I believe that eden should try them, simply because she does seem to have exhausted all other options and she now says she wants to end her life, which is definitely worse than giving the meds a chance. Like I have already said, she doesn't have to stay on them if she doesn't like them.
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