I just read this post which wasnt there when I wrote the other one. we must be online at the same time. I felt I had to reply to this, got me at it again....................

I think I am 'one of those unfortunates' that the book talks about, when I used to hear that I used to think, God! poor things, having that said about them! then recently, it began to dawn me , thats where I fit~! I'm one of those.!................. which since I discovered about pd, and got more and more understanding, I then, and only then had a chance to really access the programme.
I'm not saying that your woman could have been helped, ........... a 12 step programme with a specific focus on the self disorder for those who arent getting it in the already existing fellowships,............that is my dream. There may bo others like me who could make it with this extra understanding who dont make it with what is already there.

this is the fellowship I crave, I'm not through trying yet.

riverx