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amandalouise · Jun 30, 2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaly78

How do you continue to justify people believing we want everyone to be this way as well? Fractured and splintered off ? What would you make an illusion to teach it not to talk or train it not to do there job to me the theory is flawed it doesn't make sense?

Say for instance, if you are getting really go at dialogue listening especially for those experiencing the external world . Especially if you getting really good at remembering back what was said and also maintaining what is happening in the present say really good at because it is your reality your people, with two realities.....Now the third reality is the world we live in, how it is okay for people to get involving knowingly or unknowingly to be mind trainers of a reality of theirs we don't want...Say for instance, follow your first mind etc. I wouldn't want everyone to know my whereabouts, my internet whereabouts or my our decisions to another alters decision life ain't all a buffet...How can gangstalking be the answer!!.Don't you know when that happens there are instantly heightened ptsd.

I ordered a chicken sandwich....I was on the menu right before the phone call online....A few alters wanted different things this is ongoing and chronic this public beat down and humiliation....So I gets the girl on the phone I said I want a chicken sandwich on a bun with french fries. So goes over all I just previously decided before calling hamburger bun which was one of my alters choices, but later on thought we had a cheese burger the other day ... She just went on and on....If you been set up before you know how this works....So on my list of PTSD I can write how that started each every one of these exacerbating the training is not working....Emerging ones that are already there from the past and the news one forms

•Flashbacks -More alters out more images
•Nightmares -
•Body memories - I get advance and ask her are you suppose to be here since she wants to second guess my own mind..I'll throw it back on her and lie saying you told me yesterday you was suppose to be off work. Mindless talking.
•Frightening thoughts- will she spit in my food
•Feeling tense ---cause i wanna cuss them out
•Hyper-vigilance --about mind spying my stories all of my sexual stories they might know, the past
•Excessive anxiety or worry -- more anxiety about the past, you my credit card number anything my name on my credit card.
•Anger outbursts --makes me doubt there ability and cussing them out
•Startles easily/jumpiness --I'm startled easy if anything is repeated just said in our home on in our decision making process
•Over reacts to others emotions and outbursts --This is obvious overreacting
•Reacts to others' traumas (such as EMS, hospital or police department
•Memory problems---Go to pick up my phone and alter almost twice said hamburger revolving, now you cut off from an area so I'm forgetting to ask for ketchup and check the order cause you so afraid some else is going to start with the humiliation so random customer. It is ridiculous!
•Lack of concentration- hampers concentration over concern for them messing up orders
•Difficulty retaining information --see previous for my alter
•Feelings of fear or anxiety ---fear of the unknown its a helpless feeling
•Physical problems - body memories, obsequre switches
•Poor interactions with coworkers
•Unreasonable reactions to situations that trigger memories
•Absenteeism - Not going to the restaurant if safe people are actually nice in subsequent visits.
•Interruptions if employee is still in an abusive relationship, harassing phone calls, etc.
•Trouble staying awake
•Panic attacks--yea panic attacks cause I'm not remembering and how mental illness is still winning

If I keep this same restaurant they piling on the stress I can see how this splitting keeps happening!!

For me since therapy has started new alters created I don't know how it stopped for some and didn't for others. Someone school me on that

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at first I wasnt sure what you were looking for, there is no training for punishment. treatment providers in the USA are trained to work with each client with what their own individual problems are, where they are at that moment helping them to find ways to solve their own problems through positive ways not negative\punishment ways. they are able to make suggestions on how you can feel better but its up to each person in therapy to decide for their self whether they want to follow what their treatment providers would like them to try.

my suggestion is if you feel your therapist is pushing you to do something you are against, then you can set up a session to discuss your feelings and work on developing a treatment plan that will better fit what you are looking to get out of attending therapy. you know things like setting your goals and working on your goals kind of thing

then I read your post.. in a nutshell am I right in guessing you want to know how to stop fast food places from reading back your order and convincing you to order other things and help you to not get confused by what the alters want and what you had the days, weeks before ordering...

what I have always done was write out my order before hand. then when ordering I make a point of saying yes I would like to order, whoops dropped my list, here we go I want.... then I read it off to them and when I get to the end of the list I read back to them my order rather than them reading it to me. when i get to the end of my list I say ok pen in hand how much is that going to be. and when they tell me how the cost I thank them and hang up if paying at the food place, or giving them my card information. then I hang up. that way there is no temptation to over order, get confused and what not.

when ordering what calmed my alters down was that I made sure to order common ground items. bottom line is my alters had their own sense of agency so there was no controlling them and what they wanted. when they were in control they did the ordering for their selves.

even now that my alters have all been integrated I still use this simply because it works so well for me. it puts them back in the service of receiving and full filling my fast food order and me not getting the hassles of them trying to talk me into more products Im not prepared to buy.