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Originally Posted by shamon86
I don't know what forum you thought you were posting on, but this one is to SUPPORT people who have depression/anxiety, diagnosed as bipolar etc. You know nothing about the strength and willpower that we have. If all you plan on doing is essentially telling people that their depression is their fault, then go somewhere else. We don't need your arrogance or insights here.
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There is a difference between supporting someone and {babying/coddling} someone.
How is Your depression not Your fault?
Is there someone who is forcing you to feel or think a certain way?
Are people not accountable for their own {actions/thoughts/inner-space}?
How is calling the sky blue arrogant?
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Originally Posted by PenguinExMachina
You don't know me. You don't know any of us on here. You do not know our levels of willpower, or what we have or have not done to get ourselves out of that deep, dark pit that is depression. Do you honestly think that the people here want to be here? Do you honestly think that they aren't doing everything they can to get out? When you say 'There is no way that someone who Truly wants to pull themselves out of depression is going to keep finding themselves in the depths of it. It is impossible. Do or do not', this shows lack of understanding and compassion.
You want to encourage people with depression to change by bringing a positive mindset into their lives? How is insinuating that their depression is their fault, claiming they are just making excuses, that they lack willpower/commitment, that the people they seek to help them are just out to make profit, going to do that? How is that supportive, which is the entire premise of this board? It is your wording and your message, that is hindering your cause. I think it needs some work. You do not realize the damage you could be doing with what you are saying.
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Both of your comments have the "you don't know me" sentiment being expressed, which I find that people only utilize once they've been outed to an uncomfortable degree and are using that statement evasively, to deflect, to attempt to obscure a facet of themselves that they are uncomfortable with that has been brought to light.
Yes, people are obviously here because they want to be. They registered to be a user here just like everyone else.
Even people in "bad" living situations are only there because they want to be on some level. Even if they find it very "undesirable" or even "painful", because at a point a persons pain can easily become their pleasure- which is obvious in how some almost gloat about their pain and are so into their own suffering and suffering in general. The news/media knows this, that's why they show the stories they do.
Why do some people get "trapped" in an abusive relationship for so long? Because on some level they {liked/like} it for a time.
Why do some people get trapped in an impoverished environment fo so long? Because on some level they {liked/like} it for a time.
Why do some people get trapped in depression for so long? Because after a while they "like" it, they don't mind it so much anymore, it becomes normal, it becomes pleasurable- even though they may outwardly create the appearance of being "fed up with it", they do more actively to enable their own depression than they do to try to resolve it.