I can try again. Last time I did go there I guess i only tried on like 3-5 pairs. When I can get "short" sizes I try on those, and sometimes regular too. I think the jeans always feel tighter when you first try them on. That was why I didn't buy any at Old Navy when i was there a few months ago I think. That's a good idea though because they are also decently priced.

When/if you measure waist size do you include your butt in it? Or in between hips and belly button? Some instructions even say to measure around the belly button when wrapping the tape around. It gets confusing.