We use the pulsars to help ground sometimes. We have only done an official emdr session twice. I have too much dissociation right now to use it. She's an emdria instructor as well as a certifier. Most of our sessions are talk based, if I talked more about my therapy I'm sure you'd be able to follow it. I just keep it close to me. There is a lot about me I'm embarrassed to talk about and ashamed of, trying to get past that.