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Old Aug 21, 2016, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IceCreamKid View Post
A few things come to mind. The bum she is living with probably gives her good feelings coupled with low expectations. She likely feels capable and in control with him.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the effect having an alcoholic (and absent) father had on your daughter. The fact that she now has a resident, omni-present boyfriend who is dependent on her for his support, says a lot.

I agree with Rose for the most part. If you need to interact with this man, be polite and nothing more. But I would also suggest you not in any way encourage your daughter to take on more debt: schools are far too quick to encourage young people to take on massive debt. This is a mistake in my opinion. So if you had the chance to encourage your daughter one way or the other, I'd suggest the other. Example: Daughter says, "I don't know whether to take out another school loan, or to extend my education a year by going part time." If my daughter said that to me, I'd say: "I would extend my education; a year goes by quickly, a debt can take many years to pay off." I think that is appropriate parenting; you are offering wisdom that your daughter, because of her developmental stage, does not yet have. Legally she is an adult; but her brain, and her judgment, are still developing, believe it or not, until she is about 25 or so.

If it comes to pass that she decides she is done supporting a bum, you could be ready with information and an offer for a happy and successful transition back to your home for the time it takes her to finish school near you: She could live with you for no or reduced rent and attend the XYZ school close to you (assuming this is possible), for example. I would not offer a place for him; if she wants to move back and he is part of the deal, then he has to find his own place to live.

One last thought. "Active listening" can sound a lot like an interrogation, and is especially dependent on tone of voice. "You're angry he doesn't do the dishes!" You're ANGRY he doesn't do the dishes?!?!? YOU'RE angry HE doesn't do the dishes??!?! I much prefer thoughtful listening; which is a whole lot more listening and a whole lot less parroting what the speaker says. "I'm so angry Lazy Larry doesn't do the dishes!" (silence. Let her sentence lie there and let her think about it.) Only if she asks for advice do you comment. "What should I do?!?!" Answer: "Paper plates, eating out, equitable division of duties--there are lots of solutions to problems, dear."

I'd also buy and send her a copy of Adult Children of Alcoholics. It's very illuminating and she can pick and choose what she takes from it.

I wish you and your dear daughter the very best.

Believe me I know having an alcoholic father and then him not being in her life since she was very young DID affect her tremendously.

I think you are exactly right that she doea feel very much in control with this guy.

I tell her she will have to pay back loans one day so she should just stick with grants that she won't need to pay back. I've always told her that. This guy takes out tons of loans, according to her, and I know he recently encourgaged her to get a credit card at a golf place so that he could buy new golf irons. The credit card is in her name so the debt falls onto her. Which she knows better to fall for that type of manipulation. But once again I know I am powerless over that too.

A couple of months ago my daughter was "thinking about" either moving in with her sister or moving back home. I offered my home to her and told her she could go to the local college here and work. I told her I wouldn't require any money from her that I would just want her to get herself a savings set up and get herself together. He of course sweet talked her into staying with him. She knows my offer always stands.

He will never be allowed to live in my home.

I think I need to do active and thoughtful listening with her.

I will get that book and read it first and then offer it to her. Thank you for suggesting it.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and advice with me. I appreciate it very much.
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