I didn't last very long with a very clueless T. Regular T doesn't often hit the wrong notes but when he does he really does. And I like the analogy to music - he is a former musician and even the best musicians hit the wrong notes sometimes. We recently nearly ruptured but some of it was me as it's impossible to know what someone is thinking and feeling. But he was excellent at repairing his part of it. I think my pet peeve is when they don't understand that people don't always like to be approached or touched. This is interesting so thanks for starting this discussion ATAT.