I haven't posted on this thread because I didn't want anybody else in the forum to think I am picking "sides". The only real side I am consistently on is mine and the side of the idea that people with narcissistic disorders can help each other. How to do that is the challenge, as has been said by others.

I believe it's entirely possible that we all have different roads to getting better. Being able to accept feedback may be an important thing for many. Seems like the OP indicates that and I have openly said that I would like feedback.

It seems also clear that people in this forum may have different ideas of what getting better may look like. Maybe one thing to consider is what are our goals for being "better". The primary one that I can think of for myself is that I would like to learn to be myself and still feel like I can get along with others -- or at least, some others and that I can have a fairly good sense of who might get along with me and vice versa. So for me, getting better also means trying, risking stepping on people's toes, getting feedback, and trying again.

Any other ideas?