Yeah and I think telling someone NOT to have a baby will just make them want it more because the way it sounds is like they're being told they aren't good enough to be a parent, and they want to prove that they are.

Back in the 1950s and before most women were married with at least 1 child by age 20. Just because some people don't have the same wishes they did back then for things like marriage and staying home, doesn't mean that the desire for a baby goes away too. There is no perfect life-kids from all kinds of families and situations have ended up with issues.

And I had a VERY bad childhood and at times wish I had never been born, however when I really think about it, I would actually just rather my mother loved me enough to protect me. That is a CHOICE on her part, regardless of how poor you are or what your situation is. As a matter of fact, had I grown up in the women's shelter rather than the apartment we lived in, I would have been better off. Even though someone in an apartment seems more stable than in a shelter, it wasn't about the money or nice things I didn't own, it was the people she allowed around me.