First of all, I do apologise for derailing the thread.

Awkwardly Yours, you're right on why I'm hammering T with this - it's because she believes she doesn't "need" training. I disagree with her (because I worry about implicit bias etc), even if yes I do understand where she's coming from in that gay, bi or straight, we all have the same human needs.

I could see another therapist in addition to T. The LGBT org I contacted said their counsellors can work with me on unpacking how abuse / painful life experiences affected my sexual orientation etc. They would refer me to a clinical psychologist if I have clinical symptoms however. I have clinical symptoms, which is why I'm seeing T who is a clinical psychologist, sigh. I'll have to see if I can see 2 Ts at the same time.

Since the thread is on ruptures, I do believe T and me can come to a point where this is resolved. I don't actually think I want to "win" in my demand, but I would be glad if I and her can come to understand where we're both coming from.

I am aware that I kvetch on this sticking point quite a lot on PC. A lot of people here try conversion therapy, even those with loving upbringings. Have talked to some.

Again, I apologise for the derail.