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Old Nov 13, 2016, 11:38 AM
Abby Abby is offline
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I relate. Or at least I feel I can. I think I have a similar issue.

I feel I have an intense need for something...not even sure what...safety?...which I'm well aware my therapist cannot fulfil. And I also know it is not about her fulfilling it really. I've been in therapy for long enough to know that. But I also know whenever I go near those feelings of desperately needing relief from the pain, she seems to be the one I turn to... probably because she cannot give it or is blank....which all makes no sense. So these days I don't go near my wants and wishes as there is absolutely no point. She cannot give me what I want realistically because even I don't know what it is and I know that I don't really want what she has to give as my pain is from a deeper place, beyond here and now actions. Even if I was given everything I ever wanted from her, it wouldn't be what I wanted because I don't want contact with her, I want contact and connection with what was. So like your protector, I try my best to turn it off, to stop the cycle of asking and needing what can't be etc. Except when I'm 'triggered' (for want of a better word) this seems to go out the window and I feel utterly denied by her...and I feel that I am hurting myself more by continually denying what I feel I want yet logically know I wouldn't get. It hates the logic... But I continue to reject my needs continually though because, as I said, I can't get those fulfilled externally so why ask for it...and that all hurts to high hell. I'm not sure if it hurts more than the original pain, I don't think if does, but it's an additional layer of pain I don't want or need.

I don't have any answers for you. I dived into the feelings two odd years ago and I'm only just resurfacing from that extreme trauma that nearly killed me physically. Now, i refuse to get into the cycle of denying myself what I need but I'm not going to dived into the deep longing either. Neither is productive for me and I want what will help me.

Honestly, the only way I see that my pain can be helped is to connect with myself. The hurt parts can always connect with me, I will always be there for them. My therapist cannot be. Of course, this is also a lie and they know it. I haven't always been there for them. My current major issue is that they either don't and won't listen to me because they don't trust me (and honestly I wouldn't trust me either as I've done a rather **** job at protecting them but a wonderful job at keeping a functioning facade to the world instead...I wish I'd collapsed earlier...when I was little...oh well.) Or I don't have the energy or even sometimes a huge compassion for them. Of course I don't want them to be in pain but they're also pretty boring and really drag me down sometimes. I can be compassionate for only so long before I'm sick of their constant whining need. So that leads me back into trying to find a temporary self soothe from outside me which never really helps and goes back to the original issue above.

It sounds as though you trust your therapist. It sounds as though the pain is keeping you stuck. It also sounds as though a part of you doesn't trust your therapist and that's pretty understandable to me. She has to go at the end of sessions, she isn't going to be there every minute reflecting you in the way you need her too... I find it hard to trust myself...I don't trust others even though I know their intentions are good, I just know she can't give me what I truly need. Maybe staring at the pain head-on will allow things to change? I'd be really interested in doing that. My issue is sustaining that gaze though as my whole life I've turned away from it when it hurts too much and also how to cope with staring at it beyond the therapy session. It's going to create rage if you stare at it and she says bye.... And I realise I slipped into talking about me here and my situation...

I'd be interested in how you re-set emotions. I don't think I'd want to reset mine...but I want to face them head on. But I also think I'll die if I do that. I don't know if you feel like that? The thing is logically I know I won't die but the terror is very real. And I get so angry that it stops me and keeps me stuck.

I hate being stuck but don't know how to become unstuck. I hope you relate to this. I hope you find a way forward if you do, because maybe you can tell me what the way is. I hate repeating the same thing over and over again too. I try not to bother now...