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Old Nov 26, 2016, 10:07 AM
Talthybius Talthybius is offline
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It's the other side of the coin. I don't know why you think this is a special insight or a different twist.

It is all subjective. If a male and female aren't attracted to each other, saying the male lacks a trait a female likes or the female doesn't like what the male is, is exactly the same thing.
Saying the male lacks a trait or saying the female is a attracted to the wrong thing, they are both equally valid.

Same the other way around.

I find it surprising that you would make this comment. I see many people here take things personally. When someone makes a general statement about either sex, be it male or female, even when that person makes clear it is a generalization, some person will come along and take issue.

All you are really saying is you aren't comfortable about people making generalizations about females. And there is nothing wrong with a generalization, as long as it is recognized as one.

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Originally Posted by A Red Panda View Post
No, the people who say that aren't right - they're sexist.
Wut?!

I don't think the idea that people are not aware of what they are actually attracted to is unreasonable. There is no scientific evidence either for or against (I check the literature as I actually have access to the journals and the skills to quickly find it, if it is there). So it is a matter of opinion. I do not need to cite paper, as it is not a scientific claim (hopefully one day it will be and we can resolve this).
And if I had to, you have the same burden of evidence to provide a claim people are actually attracted to what they think they are attracted to.

Given the cognitive dissonance around mating and attraction, it is not unreasonable to postulate self-reported attraction deviates from actual attraction.

The only reason I made my claim initially about females is because you (females? and Shadix) were talking about females. But even at the end of my post, I generalized it to include all people. Males and females (and even people who don't self-identify as males or females would be included), Yet it is a sexist claim? That's absurd. Sexism isn't a one way street. You don't fight actual sexism towards woman with fake sexism against males who are willing to be vulnerable.

And I made the claim in a certain context. And that context was that it was an argument against the argument that Shadix is wrong a priori because all females that posted here disagree. The only point was to undermine that line of argument. Not to postulate this as some truth. Do we know for sure woman know exactly what they like? No. Do we know for sure woman have no idea what they like? No.
Please read my words as carefully as I type them. Thanks.

Last edited by Talthybius; Nov 26, 2016 at 10:24 AM.