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Originally Posted by ElsaMars
We could adopt a philosophy where we don't talk to autistic or delusional people or we can learn proper communication techniques and allow them to express themselves and still offer our insight. It's acceptable to say "we've gone round and round and I see no point". I see your point 
But the OP may still have more to say and people may still feel the need to respond back. When nobody sees the point anymore the thread will drop. |
I guess it is more of the second bit. We do not know how to talk sense into someone. As someone who has had a big need for sense being talked into him, and maybe still am, I do not see how people could have helped me in the past to get out of certain thouhg patterns that I eventually did come out of.
I have this vision of the same throughts in a person reenforcing themselves as a person thinks about it more and longer. As the person obsesses about them, they get a life of their own.
Mayhe they need new thought patterns, and maybe more important, new experiences and behaviors, to be diluted away.
I also agree that Shadix brother not having a boyfriend may be an oddity as well, and maybe they suffer from similar things, in different ways.
My brother had girlfriends in his youth. Girls would tell me 'Your brother is cool' and 'Your brother is cute', with the slight intonation sugesting I was not. But my brother had one serious girlfriend. But after that fizzled, for a very long time, from maybe 19 to 26 or so, he did not. I don't know if he never had or just kept it hidden. I suspect whatever was going on was superficial. But now he has had a GF for quite some years and it seems to be going well for him, and her. But maybe I am being naieve. If I have so many problems, and some of them are related the way my parents interact, he must have the same damage.
I don't know if Shadix should invest in his relationship with his brother, get to a better understanding, or try to develop a life independent of him.