I do not have any out of session contact unless it's for scheduling and then I can leave a message on her work voicemail. I do not know her cell number or her email address and she definitely does not give it out. I've never wanted out of session contact so it's not been a big deal. Only once in the past 2 years have I asked T to call me and she did and we spoke for about 5 minutes and she didn't charge me.