i think you both are making good points... i live in a town so pc, so feminized, at times i had to search to find my cave man because "they" would hang him high if anyone knew where he was... but with some stroke of luck there remains a shred and i'm hangin' on to him... sorry if i'm wrong, but i am male... and why the heck should i apologize?

i was remembering something earlier that i thnk i can apply now... one of my weakness/strengths is to people please... if i go to a bar to play the jukebox i take into account what other customers are there... try to play a song that everyone can dig... now if you have a mix of men, women, bikers, cowbays, grampas and gramma and babies... do you know how hard that is? well, i try anyway.. cause they came for a good time too... and part of me having a good time is if they have a good time...

likewise i'm considerate of what topics i discuss and the nlanguage i use, cause even if i'm only talking to one person, others can hear me and sure enough, soon as i say the f-word, theres gramma right behind me... now some are cool and don't get offended but i wonder, in the back of their mind, i've just made an impression, been an example... what example do i want to set???? what do i want this woman or this man to have of me? what do i want him/her to tell their kids that i'm all about...

don't forget... pc is all over in my town... i deal with it all the time... it gets so nutty i could scream... but then, i'd be setting an example of someone who just lost their last wit... nowheretorun...