bebop,

i forgot to mention in my other posts that i have been rxed Tramadol twice. the stuff was absolutely worthless for me each time. the first time i was rxed it was when i had fibromyalgia. the rheumatologist i was seeing at the time did not believe in prescribing narcotics as they are addictive and dangerous (his words not mine). the second time i was given tramadol was to use for a hairline fracture. the only difference was that the doctor had me take more than the normal dose. again, a waste of money. as i was on suboxone, there was no way that i could take an opiate with it and not experience false withdrawl. suboxone is an agonist/antagonist (naloxone) . an antagonist will fight an opiate for receptors. rather than to more technical... when this occurs, all hell breaks loose and you become extremely ill. today, pain docs have jumped on the suboxone band wagon because there is absolutely no way you can abuse opiates with it, it is not a class II narcotic like methadone, and it keeps the feds happy.

most people i talk to find no relief with tramadol or Ultram. if you do, that is great. keep us up to date. i am truly interested in what the outcome is.

Peacemaker (Sherri)