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Old Dec 26, 2016, 10:05 PM
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One of the biggies for me is that when therapists in the past shamed or rejected me (and they did), it felt to me like they were part of “me” and consequently the “injury” was intolerable.
Not sure I felt that they were part of me, but maybe I am missing your meaning on that. But I did feel that some of the injuries were intolerable, mostly around rejection and exclusion.

Came across something from a psychologist that points to something important for me about this therapy rejection:

"One of the things that your bain is very concerned with is relative status. People hate being low in status, especially men. Part of what happens when your status goes up is your brain serotonin levels go up. And when you brain serotonin levels go up, you're less irritable and you experience less negative emotion, per unit of uncertainty or threat. And so when you demean someone, and you lower their presumed status as far as a very primordial circuit is concerned, you alter the system that regulates their emotions, and they hate that. It's an unbelievably archaic circuit. So you mess with at your peril. It's not learned, by no means." -- Jordan Peterson

The whole thing felt demeaning. The imposed hierarchy, the powerlessness, the rejection, the implicit pathologizing, and finally being dumped. At the time I described as a sense of being on the brink of annihilation. No doubt some primitive brain circuits got activated. Total disregulation.

I think when people focus on the surface interactions of therapy and ignore the hierarchy and implied social structures, it's easy to dismiss damaging stuff.

I dont trust therapists to handle any of this skillfully, or even believe that it can be done predictably or consistently, or that it even makes sense fundamentally to play this sort of game.
Thanks for this!
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