I was speaking to Skies, though in a public forum. The “us” referred to the commonality that I felt with her and an attempt to be with her in her despair.

I posted in the public forum, rather than with a PM, because for me it has helped a lot sometimes to feel “heard” or some sense of commonality with others here when many or most don’t or can’t understand. And, if I missed the mark in part or completely, then because my comments were just a part of the public commentary, they could be relatively safely rejected by the person I was wanting to support, if they weren't helpful. An effort on my part, take what she likes and leave the rest.

To whom does the “our” refer in your post? I certainly do not feel a sense of commonality with you. So even though you addressed your comment to me, I don’t feel any “our” in it.

Acceptance of hopelessness about therapy, rather than going forward with something that has repeatedly disappointed me or an ideal that doesn't exist, understanding that feeling, that seems realistic to me. Things may be different tomorrow, but this is where I am, today. And maybe accepting this feeling, from a core place inside of me, is necessary for going forward.

Maybe Skies didn't like my post either. But I have really tried in therapy, more than 50 years on and off as I've said before. So I believe my own sense of despair about it is realistic.