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Old Jan 16, 2017, 02:49 AM
DechanDawa DechanDawa is offline
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Originally Posted by sugarbeeMe View Post
Check out John Teasdale's TED talk- this is not Buddhist meditation. This is called Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT.) It has even been through clinical trials.
It is also taught at Kaiser Medical to help people with depression and anxiety. It has helped me to stop ruminating in depression.
I agree that if someone is in crisis- this would not be appropriate.
Best of luck

MBCT is based on mindfulness meditation which is rooted in Buddhism. Virtually any practice with the word mindfulness in it has originated in Buddhism because this is where this mindfulness practice was originated. All mindfulness practices are rooted in Buddhist mindfulness meditation practice. This is simply the history of what you are talking about. Secular mindfulness practices as well are all rooted in mindfulness meditation practice that is rooted in Buddhist mindfulness meditation practice. Why? Because it was the Buddha who first taught mindfulness. Okay? That is the history of mindfulness practice. I might add that mindfulness practice is not rocket science. It is simply becoming more aware of the present moment and where your thoughts and emotions are directed.

Furthermore, regardless of whether or not clinical studies have been conducted -- mindfulness based practices may provide initial relief but have not been known to be helpful in long term moderately severe and severe situations such as trauma and PTSD. In fact, in a clinical study conducted in Boston veterans actually become worse after practicing meditation. Meditation can cause repressed trauma to arise too quickly. The meditation program with the Boston veterans was discontinued.

Anecdotally people notoriously do not maintain mindfulness practices long term. So as far as your clinical studies are concerned...I would like to know how they long they were conducted. Sure, people get some relief after a few months but most people simply do not continue long enough for life changing results.

I kind of resent your coming back and going on and on about something I already said I was knowledgeable about.

Telling severely depressed people to do mindfulness practice is not something you should be advising.
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