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what I m trying to say here is that canada isnt all that for health care and yes there is a wait for major surgury and yes you get bumped if someone with more money applies...

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Gotta disagree with you there, Mystry.

While I agree that not every visit nor every situation/procedure turns out to be what we ought to expect, but that is usually due to local governance and procedures designed to totally miminize liability (ah, insurance...there is much money to be made...), understaffed facilities and, well, just totally incompetent people who really don't care. To them, it's just a crappy job that pays crappy wages.

As for paying privately? The equipment being used is owned by private investors and are not affiliated with public health care. That's why all the hoo-haw about "privatizing" heath care here in Canada. People don't get bumped from the public system for financial reasons, they just get faster service paying for it themselves - privately.

Does this create problems in our universal system? Hell yeah!

I do believe, however, that in certain situations, people are definitely "graded" and will be relegated to a lower position (ie. by things like their relevance to their potential to contribute to society. An example would be to give surgery to a younger man with a young family, and considered to be "making a contribution to society," as compared to the seemingly hopeless heroin addict living on the streets and will likely never be a viable contributor to society, or sadly, the elderly, where it could almost be seen as a "waste," Someone has to think in cold, hard logistics. (I know this sounds crude, but I believe this happens. I have witnessed this process more than a few times). There would have to be a choice made as to who (whom?) would be the first to receive treatment, and odds are it won't be the addict, nor the elderly one.

Oops

Think I just went off on a tangent there myself! Wow, feels good sometimes, eh?

The REAL CRIME here is that the entire WORLD deserves to benefit from the advancement in medicine!!! Now that would truly be a universal "health care program!"

I'm such an idealist...