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Old Feb 25, 2017, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Terish View Post
I agree with what Luce said.For one thing,therapy is supposed to be a safe place to say and ask anything you want and nobody should have to worry that anything they say or ask will cause them to be labeled as having ficticious disorder.Just because someone asks or says something doesn't mean they're malingering.I think if I was a professional I would be more apt to throw the label on someone that is well rehearsed on the newest terms,standards and manuals because the average person normally doesn't know those things.The average person isn't really expected to anyway,that's the professionals job.

For another thing,any professional worth their weight will listen to what you say or ask without making an immediate judgment,and as Luce said,say tell me more about that,not immediately think aha,they're faking.That sounds ridiculous for a professional to do and I agree that they should have their license revoked if they do.

Also,I did do that,I told my T a few years ago I thought I had structural dissociation.I didn't know what it was and hadn't heard of it but one of my insiders told me about it.What he did was got on his computer and searched for it,talked a little about it and then sent the info to my email while I was sitting there for me to read later.He did that because I was talking about it,I brought it up.It didn't change my diagnosis or anything.

And I want to comment on mindfulness and meditation too.Mindfulness is helpful,just being aware of what you are doing at any given time,noticing things in the present,etc.But meditation can sometimes cause dissociation and why for awhile my T suggested I don't do it.
I think you might have the wrong idea about my post, this can happen when other posters take sections of my posts out of context.

my point of my post was to go according to ones ......own location..... (in this case if anyone had taken the time to read the posters past posts and checked out their locations mental health system they would have found that the posters location uses the core system not the structural dissociation module of treatment) , the example you are talking about in my post, was only what happens between me and my own treatment provider and treatment providers in my own location. no treatment providers do not just jump to the conclusions of this person is faking it.

short version america now has a new way of working with mental illness and their clients. one of those ways is to keep the patient informed. if the patent is one that does research on the internet it it perfectly acceptable now for treatment providers to tell that patient no they do not have a mental disorder that is not listed in that locations diagnostic manual...

if you reread my post you will see I purposely used the wording that structural dissociation was not a .......mental disorder.... in my location. I did this because the poster worded their question as structural dissociation being a mental disorder.... they did not word itasking for people who use the structural dissociation treatment model. they asked for people who have structural dissociation.

some locations outside the USA do consider structural dissociation to be a mental disorder label but mine does not. the dissociative disorders in my location are ...

Dissociative Identity Disorder
Dissociative Amnesia
Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder
Other Specified Dissociative Disorder
Unspecified Dissociative Disorder

so if someone while talking about mental disorders states they have a mental disorder called structural dissociation disorder it is perfectly safe and appropriate for the treatment provider in my location to either say no you do not have that mental disorder or write the person up as to having fictitious disorder imposed on self. fictitious disorder imposed on self is used in my location when someone is trying to label.......their self.... with a mental disorder that is not recognized in ...........their own location......

only that person and their own treatment provider can say what and how that treatment provider does things is right or wrong.

it is not wrong or unethical or unsafe for my location to tell a person they do not have .....structural dissociation disorder

it is not wrong or unethical or unsafe for a treatment provider to label someone who is self diagnosing with a mental disorder they do not have as being factitious disorder imposed on self.

one thing people tend to forget about when online.... is that many locations have many different mental and physical health disorders. not all countries, states, cities, towns and treatment providers use the same diagnostics, definitions, treatment models and so on.

some people use the structural dissociation model others use the core system model of dissociation and still others use other treatment models. and each location and treatment provider has their own standards of what to call it when a client tries to self diagnose with a mental disorder that is not recognized in their location.