> If he is looking for action on the side he needs to be upfront about it and not bash his wife while trying to score.

Yep. I didn't get the impression that he was trying to do that, though. I just thought he was enjoying Okie's company...

Sometimes... When people are frustrated they say things that aren't really optimal when they are venting. I find girls tend to do this more than guys, but guys do it sometimes too, yeah. Looking for some sympathy and understanding. And sometimes we feel like we will only get that if we really persuade people that we are hard done by or have been wronged somehow. I struggle a lot when people bad mouth others. And it does seem worse when they are doing it about their best friend or their partner. But sometimes people do do wrong, yeah.

I think Okie is to be commended for calling him on that!

I wondered if she might have been attracted to him precisely because he is unavailable, too. I know that is partly it for me. Safety.