Yes i have just started 12 step debtors anonymous. I was really fighting step 1,i guess i am more of a control freak than i realuzed!i simply could not admit that i cant control everything/all outcomes/am not in charge!the flip side of this-which is so strange-is at the same time i felt that my debting was our if control!that i had no power/no control..but i could not admit it here or anywhere,and now i have. Great relief