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Old Apr 09, 2017, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chihirochild View Post
I gave the example of a physician performing a physical exam because it's a situation where boundaries are non-typical but not necessarily harmful or immoral; an example of how in some situations, for the work to be done, some boundaries have to be removed and others have to be set in place.
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Originally Posted by chihirochild View Post
I think an important difference between our stances on this issue is that I come from the assumption that good therapists (rare as they are) have both the intention and capacity to be of help if they have enough data.

Sure, I get that a medical exam involves one-way exposure and unusual boundary dynamics. And so does therapy. But I think the similarities mostly end there. Therapy is a whole other thing, with very specific and (in my view) sketchy rules of engagement. And to my original point, loads of hypocrisy in their talk about boundaries (some are sacred, others are just knocked over).

Also I personally have found interactions with mainstream doctors to be almost universally unhealthy, lot of infantilizing patriarchal stuff, and too many other things to list. I would not hold out doctor-patient as a justification for the existence of therapist-client, or vice versa.

I'm actually not talking about whether good/bad therapists can be helpful. Was simply pointing out that therapists claim impeccable boundaries, but in reality they push a number of boundaries in what I find to be creepy and questionable ways.

I asked about the hurting thing because usually when a therapy consumer expresses criticism or discontent, it's presumed to arise from emotional distress and confusion, instead of well-reasoned examination. It's a built-in deflection to keep eyes off the sketchy stuff. So I tend to ask about this. No worries.
Thanks for this!
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