Thank you Sky I really appreciate that. This has really helped me to understand... for myself, i guess that about answers it...

Thanks to each of you who helped with this thread. Baby steps? prior to starting the thread i understood the soul cleansing aspects but hadnt really discussed much the actual process... just self torment has to be resolved... tried ending my life 3 times... figured 'someone' was trying to tell me something... turns out 'they' were...

I bet you can relate Tomi...

i still think there must me a way of doing cathartic therapy painlessly...

everything ive heard goes along the lines of "If it hurts, you're not doing it right."

maybe time for the cathartic process too evolve?

Thanks again everyone