well, i am glad to make your aquaintance 1oxbow... thank you for your thoughtful contributions

i know that mch of what ive brought up is "incidental" harm.. but harm is harm...

ive lived in this counrty now 44 years and watched the changing social, political, religious, etc.. scenery...

when i measure what it all has brought us, sometimes i really do wonder if humans are capable of managing "freedom".. (and since i am human, this staetement includes myself)

i'm only saying... could we be a little more considerate?

i laugh, everyne knows it... but it brings up the point several have made... knowing the difference between healthy and unhealthy humor, for me, making a choice to contribute to the one, and watch the other slowly wither and hopefully die...

Perna made some great points... just don't laugh... "that kind" of humor is not humor at all...

change the channel... well, i really wish that idea worked, but obviously, it doesn't... i hope people have noted the increases in youth gangs and every other kind of peace destroying commodity in our cities and towns...

i know ive noticed... and it just gets crazier every season...

i know i sound like a disgruntled old man... i hate feeling or sounding that way... but, dangit, am i and those whove spoken here the only ones who care?

i prefer to think not..

i know im not often piping the popular song... but this to me isnt a popularity contest... im sick of watching my brothers and sisters suffer for childish reasons...

i want to grow, i wish we all could... i would love it if America itself would grow up...