Echos, could you talk more about object permanence? Maybe in a different thread? How long should someone without issues be able to hold object permanence? What is the developmental stages of object permanence?... ok maybe I should just use my friend "the google" . I think this is part of my attachment issues. In my early childhood (first 4 yrs of life) I had a variety of primary care givers that came and went, some were around for a while others just for weeks. All of them were extended relatives. The one I bonded with the most, left when I was 2 to join the Navy. He got married while in the Navy and never returned to living with me. So, while I can believe the person still exists, I don't think I believe their place in my life is real... like they become just another name in a list of names, just another face on the train, a stranger. Shoot does that even make sense and am I talking about object permanence here?