I am very sorry hon that you felt that way in the relationship thread. I don't think any of us knew Carol was the one that hated men. I know I certainly did not. I do now understand why men would be hated. Carol please forgive me for not understanding/knowing. I had things happen to me when I was a child that I look back on now and realize it was right on the border of being abuse rather than childhood experimental stuff. again please forgive my ignorance.