This has been a very interesting thread - filled with things and feelings I have had - why was I born - why am I alive when I would rather not be - and wisdom of accepting the responsibility for your own self - that was good Adieu - we all go through ups and downs (mostly I have been in downs) but lately I am finding more and more reasons to live - to enjoy life for itself. No, we can't live for another person - although that thought keeps us alive when we are at the bottom. I have certainly gotten a lot from reading all of these posts - a lot to think about.