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Old May 11, 2017, 02:40 PM
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I am a big advocate of working with the transference. It certainly has helped me understand a lot of "irrational" feelings and actions of mine.

But transference operates throughout our life, not just in the therapy room towards therapists. I'm guessing you may have strong transference reactions to your husband. Who is he, in the transference? If you have "snippy" feelings towards your spouse, what could be the origin of those feelings, if you looked at it from a transference perspective? And what if you were as interested in thinking about and analyzing reactions to your husband, from a transference perspective, as you are the transference with your marriage counselor?

I know, personally, that in my own marriage counseling, I had moments of conflict where I was reacting in a transference way, strongly, to both my husband and the marriage counselor. Both of them, in my mind, were replicating transference roles from the past, ones that had been linked together in the past and now were once again, in my mind, coming to life in the here-and-now of the therapy room.

I don't know you, obviously, and there's so much about your life and relationships I don't know. But what sticks out to me is that, in your early life, there was a triad (you, mother, dad) and you felt excluded (secrets, etc., your dad's hurtful comment).

Now there's another triad. What role could you be playing now? What role could your husband be playing?

Transference can be so tricky. As we re-enact the past there can be what someone called a dizzying constellation of transference reactions, where people take on this role and that one as we try to exert control over what were once uncontrollable events. I know, from my own therapy, it is relatively easy to understand when I am playing the child-like victim in the transference, the one who feels abandoned and needs love and care. It's a whole lot harder for me to see when I can be taking on the persecutor role in the transference and treating other people in the same way that people once treated me. Nobody likes to see themselves that way.

I'm not saying that's the case for you--I don't know you! And I hope you don't take any offense. I know you from all your posts to be very thoughtful and so I hope you can take this in the spirit that it's meant, just some thoughts on transference in therapy and relationships from someone who has struggled (and is struggling) with all that herself.
You raise some interesting questions here. In the triad of me, H, and MC...if MC is an idealized father figure, would that make H my mother, I wonder? There have been times I've felt like he (H) was talking to me like he was my mom, especially in terms of budgeting or cleaning the house. And I realized I was subconsciously rebelling against him. Or is H something else?

There's another important triad, too--me, H, and our daughter. Having her changed how I saw H--not only was I seeing him as a husband to me, but as a father to our daughter. And times that he'll snap at her or seem really angry at her...my instinct is to protect her. It's like being a mom overrides my being a wife in many ways.

Of course, my own stuff from childhood is tied up in my parenting, too. Can't recall if I mentioned it in this thread, but MC has said that it's like I'm trying to give my daughter what I was missing (emotional understanding, help for any emotional/mental health issues she has, reassurance)--except my daughter is NOT missing that. MC had said he found himself doing the same because he had an emotionally absent father, so he was overcompensating with his kids.

Hm...and perhaps just as I don't want to be like my mom, I'm trying to make sure H isn't like my father (or his father, who isn't the most emotionally available and who also has some anger issues). Meanwhile, H doesn't want me to be like his anxious, overspending mother (his parents are divorced now, mine still together).

So, uh, yeah, I guess we have lots of stuff to talk about in marriage counseling, eh? (And individual of course, for me.)
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