When I first began reading your list...I was hoping (sigh) that it was going where it went and not "one of them." heheheh While I disagree with someone not being able to "tell you how to raise children if they haven't had any themselves" and like teaching, you are absolutely correct in that NO ONE who has NOT had depression can fully understand it TOTALLY.

There is book-learning, and there is experience...and while I wouldn't want anyone's T to have been depressed, there's a line they just can't "cross" when it comes to "knowing."

Here's another "choice" saying some ignorant ppl say:

"Well, I've been depressed and I just got through it!"

Obviously someone who says this really wasn't depressed. They may have been blue, or incidentally down...

(I try very hard not to use the word "just" in ANY post or speech.)

sigh. as I post this, I'm on hold with a su*cide hotline.go figure...ended up there by clicking on a "ad" on the bottom here...one site to another and voila... here I wait. sigh. Why???? again?????