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It's like there is some monster gap between cause and effect with her.

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It has been described to me as "living my life in a vacuum."

At my worst, I have to admit, I too, had delusions of being "special." I kinda look at it now as a survival mechanism that took over because, at the time, I was really in destruction mode. It's interesting how the psyche can split off into different directions when it is fighting to survive, eh?

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i have been cutting back contact and my T says i need to cut her off from me. i know that sounds harsh, but i know he's right. It's a long story... but the level of manipulation alone is devastating.

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Hopefully, someday, your friend will get the help she needs, but if she is taking you down, then you gotta save yourself.

Is that cruel? I don't think so. I have been dumped by friends because of my behaviours and I have also dumped friends for theirs.

I believe one can only do / say / be there so much. I also believe that she must experience the consequences / reality of how she is behaving (in this case, losing a friend) as it may ultimately help her to see her illness(es) and/or destructive ways. If she never does, then it's best to stay out of range.

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i'm an idiot for trying to figure it out for someone who doesn't give a crap what they have done to my life.

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Don't think you're an idiot for trying - think you are noble for your efforts.

And narcissitic people are desperate people - and in alot of pain, too. It may not be that she doesn't give a crap about you (unless, of course, she is also a sociopath), she is just stuck inside of herself - in her vacuum.

Narcissism as an illness, is just as painful as being bi-polar.