ok Perna.. finally... i was mistaken (no wondering where it is i have heard Perna before???) ... the card in question above described, is "Venus of Willendorf" ...

described in summary:

Europe (origin) ; Mother of Cups in the North ; ancient carving unearthed in WIllendorf Europe dating approx 25,000 to 30,000 years ago...

"Ancient statues and drawings usually lack faces. This may indicate a lack of individuality, or asense that sacred reality transcends personal qualities."

there is more to the story but this is all i care to involve myself in at this time..

source: THE HAINDL TAROT, Volume II: The Minor Arcana; Rachel Pollack; New Castle Publishing, Inc. [1990]

none of this has anything to do with Perna or anything to do with the title of the thread... ME FIRST was supposed to sink to the bottom as others "push" themselves to the front... but nice chatting with you all (((smiles)))

maybe i should start a Tarot thread??? oh, wouldnt belong in Depression... love all

(perhaps im thinking of "perma" ... more closely relates to Earth...)