Beautiful, mandyfins! Your response, I mean. It is exactly what I was looking for - a completely honest perception - explained!!

Please, no disrespect taken. This is such an open question that I would expect each and every answer to be just as it was meant to be - a personal one!

I'm borderline. I can see and feel both sides, (actually, I can see and feel many, many sides - always opposite in each of their perspectives, too).

I can so understand your point of view.

I can also understand the intensity of the anger of that kid, although, being brought up in a different generation and on a different diet of - how shall I say - what is acceptable or even popular behaviour, my take on "going out in style" would be so much different. Infamy was not an option, nor really a desire, for the average suicide victim in my parents' and even my generation.

I gotta admit though, I sure as hell thought of nuking the world (or certain parts, anyway). I've even relished in the thoughts of some of the ideas I've concocted to take out someone I thought was evil, or just hated. (I really stay away from thoughts of hatred - they are too much of a trigger and always take me down quickly).

It just blows my mind to think that this is our reality and happening to our kids, but on the other hand, I am not really surprised at all!

I can't blame kids and their attitudes. I know where they came from. If there was ever a generation of messed-up people, it has got to be ours (I'm talking boomer generation)! And if that's the case with us, what of our children? But that's another subject and have digressed.

I just keep coming back to the pain and the anger. Especially the anger. It IS so violent; so much more homicidal in behaviour that accompanies the suicidal behaviour.

It just makes me wonder about the level of pain that is being experienced out there by our babes. I don't know how I made it through my young life with the level of hatred and anger and pain that I felt. (Well, my mantra was: "Sex and Drugs and Rock & Roll" - that helped me escape/deny it for about 15-20 years). And I know it is so much worse for our kids out there. So much more hard-core, in every aspect of life now.

I don't agree with how people choose to take their lives when it includes taking out innocent people with them - it's bad enough theirs is taken by their own hand.

I just keep focusing on their pain. I don't know why. I'm kinda embarrassed about it, because all my thoughts should be with the victims(?).

Who, if any, is going to think of the soul that felt he/she had to go to such extremes to show their being(pain)?

Not many, I suspect.

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Yes, it is too much pain and needless pain-- I agree.

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BTW, I don't even drive because I am afraid of killing someone. Uh, I don't really know why I wrote that....

Thanks for your candor, mandy!