Actually sky my therapist is the only one who knows. And me being all knowing started declining way too quick from one of my meds and did some MAJOR suffering. So, I am tapering more comfy now and am using a lot of what you speak of. Herbs are new and have shown to be qite helpful. Pain meds are on hand and declining and muscle relaxants too. This is from a hating of dependency on docs or docs to give me the darned meds. Anger, pain, wanting to LIVE instead of surviving. And, I am stubborn. I hate these docs and nurses looking over my head like they know what is best. One doc ordered taking 2x methadone and primary still would not refill early so forget it. I am going to get healthy if it kills me. Ha ha.