the perpetual circle......Ya I can see this view ...even though temptation remains Satan eventually will lose to those that aspire to achieve honesty,compassion,and even just the basic moral fiber so many lack....even those that never heard of a bible...people that I think alot don't even realize still exist, even aspire to fight evil and temptation...without even the basic comforts of life that we have at our disposal

I actually lost my respect for King James's version, not after seeing how contrary it was....but studying James as a man
He has such a picture painted of him as a great man.....but what about all the people that he let die during his approved witch hunts...and reference to this type of killing being ok in the bible

I aspire to follow a greater power than myself.....I have no title for my believe's ...and have never stopped trying to sift through them yet

thats why open minded discussion such as these attract me