dang....just got home from work and ate super with the wife and kids....who I'd like to add have the traditional teachings/knowledge of the bible and that is how I'd like them to start out(my kids)..since I do think the MANY denominations of christanity are all a good influence on them....until/if they want to explore other beliefs on their own...I'm ok with that also

septembermom..it is not my intention to shred the bible with words...though I feel comfortable saying..if facts are stuck to, we can have a healthy debate by pm if you like..just pm me..but no blind faith answers...only facts and figures

ok...now that I have a few open minds to listen to me.....I have a question about a common question that I'd like input on..not trying to debate or shred...for the record

one of the most common questions asked by christans...scare tactic in my opinion...
"If you die right now do you know your going to heaven"

Now I know that Jesus makes this promise to you if you become reborn...and this promise is said in many ways in the bible.

there is a day of judgment and a book of deeds and a book of life...and you get through if your name is in the book of life...

why do we need a judgment day if so many can already say their name is in the book of life.....why do they have to wait for jesus to judge them if they can so easy just judge their self...I know it is comforting to think you know your gonna go and Im sure that alot who say they are will..if its all true

So why the analogy about the narrow gates of few entering to heaven and the broad gates to hell with so many more entering, Jesus gives...
why do so many more think they can say they know they are going..knowing their name is in the book of life ....than say they are not sure...I dont need all the promises given in the bible here since I have already saw them, and they are promises given by holy men not just men like us...its more of a discussion for me..on what other men/women think about this, not bible promise's comprehended by many differant denominations many differant ways

If I ever do see Jesus on judgment day I would hope to be humble at his feet, and hope I'm worthy of my name being in the book of life, than to have the attitude..."well here I am Jesus let me through I already know Im going so save your time and just judge all the ones going to hell"..and then have to go with the many through the broad gates to hell...since I already judged myself.....and my name was not in the book of life like I thought

but heres where I'm trying to, get to..I have found in real life if you dont say "I know I'm going"...then somthing is wrong with you...they think..you have to already know your going to go

is the book of deeds and life just a euphemism...for somthing else I don't comprehend...other than somthing used by jesus to read out judgments for "ALL"....even when we don't really need to be judged, if we just believe we are reborn..and already know we are going

eddie