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i believe words fail to describe and beyond, toxify the esssence.. and ideaologies even more so... imo God exists in a simple flower bud... seen with the eye, not read with the mind... imo

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I see it too. Words cannot capture the essense of God and God is in everything.... all of creation is an expression of God love. When I enjoy the gifts of nature I know I am communing with God. I commune with the spirit world when I meditate on a rock cliff and see the faces and symbols of my ancestors and my culture. I commune with God when I sit by the river and sing with the birds and marvel at the strength of the water and the rocks. I commune with God and marvel and respect his creations.

I hear what you are saying about the Christian view of Jesus as the only way. I'm just suggesting that every religion got the same message but it gets presented differently and it is 'their way'. The message is that God is love. That God is the way. Is that not the true essense of every spiritual concept. God is Love and the way to know his love is to follow his messangers.

I rebell against any message that is excludes anyone. I respond to a message I think is universal and I beleive the life and times of Jesus is universally told in context appropriate to one's own culture, identity and perspective.

I think we are saying the same thing. It just may be how we interpret 'the way' and how we load the language to cloud the essense of its truth.

My belief starts and ends with acknowledging a higher power who created me to be aligned in spirit with my Creator and all of creation. My spiritual awakening was facilitated by my culture's expression of the lessons of Jesus in ways different but equally significant and real as the way recounted in the bible.

oh my.... really starting to babble here. Getting a little non-sensical. Great discussion. Love it.

had to edit what the quote captured...